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 Review of Alpengeist @ Busch Gardens Williamsburg
2 Rating Posted by: BobFunland on 3/22/2005 11:24:00 AM
Alpengeist was good, dont get me wrong, but it was not great. Having ridden Top Gun just two days earlier, it would have taken quite a bit to impress me. The height sure did, as did the speed on the worlds tallest and fastest Invert. However, bigger isnt always better, and once again, I can agree with it in the case of Inverts. The Immelman was nice, but almost too big because it didnt seem intense like others. Loop was also ok, but nowhere near as fun as Top Guns loop. The cobra roll was really fun, even from the back where others have complained of headbanging, I didnt think it was too bad. After the brake run, I thought the subsequent series of elements was cool from busting through the building, to the zero-G roll to the corkscrew, and into the banked turns, it was a very good series, but still not great and still not among the best. The ride was overall fun and intense, but it just didnt thrill me like other Inverts did. Though it too had a great setting like my two favorite Inverts, Alpengeist was missing something, perhaps a batwing rather than a cobra roll considering my love for Montu and Top Gun. Overall, a fun coaster, but Ill put it to you this way: I only felt the need to ride it twice on a day when the wait was under 5 minutes, instead choosing to ride Apollos over and over, and enjoying the parks atmosphere. An 8 will do for now, and it sits as my 3rd favorite Invert, a bit above Raptor.
 

Review Comments

Danny on 3/22/2005 9:25:50 PM said:
I agree about the cobra roll not being as bad as people say. This is one of my favorite roller coasters though.
WAR2174 on 4/1/2005 11:18:30 AM said:
I agree that it is not as intense as Top Gun, but in my humble opinion intensity is not the benchmark. BG couldnt make it too crazy because of the type of customers they get. BG gets alot more older folks so they try to make rides for everyone(thats why DrachenFire only lasted a few years, it was too rough for people). Anyway, I have it listed as the best in the world. I know people dont agree, but it is something special to me.
BobFunland on 4/1/2005 1:01:42 PM said:
I understand that intensity isnt the only thing, but for an Invert, it is a very important thing to me. Top Gun also had a better series of elements to me (namely, the tighter Immelman and the Batwing instead of a Cobra Roll), and perhaps most importantly, it did not have a brake run: Top Gun was relentless, and kept going for the entire ride, which to me is better than having a mid-course brake to slow the train down. That is probably the main reason why I rated it higher. Also, thanks for serving
mrceagle on 4/3/2005 10:44:48 AM said:
I could imagin how the brack run might stop the flow of th eirde. too bad B&M hasnt figured out a disign struckure that woudl slow down the ride simply by th etrack set up.
BobFunland on 4/3/2005 12:05:09 PM said:
Top Gun didnt have a brake run, though it did have a bit of a airtime hill over the lift tahat slowed it down some, but then it steamed down into the flat spin and took it rather intensely too, so its a question of whether or not the park wants to have a brake run, or to fly through the course relentlessly. Also, that mid-course brake helps in the timing, and may help to add another train (Top Gun only has 2, while Alpengeist has 3)
Hercules on 4/3/2005 4:52:54 PM said:
Im sorry, but Ill put Talon up against any invert out there. I know that Ive really only been on too many inverts, especially not the big dogs (Montu, Alpengeist etc.) but Talon is one that gets lost in the mix. Alpengeist looks pretty sick though.
BobFunland on 4/3/2005 6:41:41 PM said:
Talon looks pretty sweet, like you said, overlooked when it comes to Inverts. Like Ive said before, it looks like it shares the intensity of a Batman clone along with some nice tight elements like the Immelman and zero-G roll, not to mention ground clearance that would make the FAA panic. It sure does look pretty damn good :thumbsup:
mrceagle on 4/6/2005 11:44:02 AM said:
Bob you were right wen mantioing tht the brack run, normaly a block section, allows for and extra train. Which allows for more capacity. also Size may have somthign to do with it. the larger dro required a back run to slow the train.
Hercules on 4/6/2005 1:25:15 PM said:
I dont really think that a break run is necessary for a bigger drop. If there a substantial amount of elements along the course of the ride that slow the train down, then there is no real need for breaks. This isnt true in most cases because they are just added anyway, but there are other ways to slow the train down during the course of the ride.
BobFunland on 4/6/2005 4:49:55 PM said:
Yea, or they could have just made the corkscrew bigger. But the extra train thing is most likely..
coaster05 on 4/6/2005 6:27:11 PM said:
I reaaly liked this ride and will probably go ten when I review it(since I just got home). It will also help rework my top ten with Apollos coming in at 3. Currently Its my favorite invert over raptor so Ill be doing some moving.
mrceagle on 4/7/2005 10:45:13 AM said:
its true that they could have added more. but the coaster already coasts $20,000,000 at it is. addign more elemints woudl have caused the price to go up even more. also you have to look at space and the parks desire to hide their coasters.
Hercules on 4/7/2005 1:20:28 PM said:
I know that. I was just saying coasters in general. I wasnt talking about this ride, or any other ride in particular. In general, certain elements and such can be used.
mrceagle on 4/8/2005 7:55:27 PM said:
O agree and in many situations they are a better cha=oise. often the quick relentless smaller coaster can altimatly be better.
coaster05 on 4/9/2005 8:33:51 AM said:
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therock on 6/10/2005 9:36:17 AM said:
I rode Alpengeist for the first time a couple weeks ago, and I need to rate this as my top invert, until I get more riding experience, simply because it brutalized me completely. I happened to ride in the front row during a pouring rain storm. Before reading this review, I couldnt even name any of the elements in Alpengeist because I couldnt open my eyes for almost the entire ride due to the battering I was taking from the rain. Every time I tried to match wits with this beast, it threw me in 3 different directions. Alpengeist was very impressive from its theming to its intensity, and it remains as a beast that I am yet to tame.
fergusonat on 6/10/2005 5:35:17 PM said:
Alpengeist certainly is intense, but Top Gun: The Jet Coasters layout is even more intense, so thats my top invert as of now. My mind keeps changing, so next week, Alpie might be on top. Good review there, Bob
therock on 6/15/2005 2:51:59 PM said:
Hey fergusonat, in what park is Top Gun located? Id like to find some pics of it. Thanks.
fergusonat on 6/15/2005 3:21:42 PM said:
Paramounts Carowinds...
http://www.rcdb.com/ig527.htm
There are pictures of it on this site as well
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