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 Review of The Riddlers Revenge @ Six Flags Magic Mountain
0 Rating Posted by: Sephiroth7 on 4/11/2002 4:28:00 AM
Good, but not that good. It was my first standup and after riding it I realized I didnt like standups. If this is the best standup...I think Id rather just sit down. Also, after riding other B+Ms, the layout is just too predictable. I mean there isnt that big a difference from when B+M premiered Kumba. Im not comparing the two rides, but this was the first new B+M I have ridden in a while and it seemed very "stale". Why cant B+M get original? Seems other people like it so dont listen to me... go ride it.
 

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B&M Rider on 4/19/2002 11:24:08 PM said:
in a way its good to have the same or similar layouts of a few rides, that way ppl can get a chance to experience them without having to travel very far. riddlers revenge is different than kumba in a way though: it has 2 diving loops, no interlocking corkscrews, its just the loop around the lift hill thats tha same. i shouldnt be saying too much since i havent ridden either coaster, i just kinda know their layouts.
Sephiroth7 on 4/21/2002 4:31:17 PM said:
All their rides have the same stuff and that is not a good thing in the coaster industry. You know what to expect when you ride it and you get the feeling...."havent I been on this before?". Though the coasters dont have the same layouts, their elements are very similar. I am NOT talking about Kumba, I am giving an example. Their rides are world class, but havent changed that much in the last few years. I almost feel like they think they designed a perfect coaster, and dont feel to explore more. I know B+M, I like B+M, but theres no denying what Im talking about...
xDisney on 4/21/2002 5:11:31 PM said:
The elements on most B&Ms are quite different.
Sephiroth7 on 4/22/2002 7:01:00 PM said:
O be quiet Disney...I say up and u say....
B&M Rider on 4/24/2002 8:44:36 PM said:
i guess, but when it comes to elements B&M has done them all. (well, except for schwarzkopfs figure-8 loop that could pull 10 gs). they do need more immelmanns on their coasters...id like to try those, as well as their sea serpent and incline loops. maybe they could make their own version of vekomas butterflies and horseshoes, that would be interesting
Sephiroth7 on 4/26/2002 12:20:46 AM said:
I know they have different elements on their rides, but the rides are way too similar. This is not to say I dont love a good B+M, but when you ride something like California Screamin, you realize how much B+M should explore with their coasters. Not the elements, the rides themselves...
B&M Rider on 4/26/2002 4:08:38 PM said:
yea, i agree with u on that. i hope the rumor is true that B&M will be building a lauched coaster at universal, cuz that would be awesome
xDisney on 4/26/2002 9:38:55 PM said:
I disagree with Seph, I dont see how anyone in thier right mind could consider a modern B&M coaster "stale" . B & M is probably the best engineered and consistantly excellent steel coaster manufactuer out there today.
Sephiroth7 on 4/26/2002 10:42:13 PM said:
Its not that I dont like them u idiot, its that they dont explore. They always follow in the footsteps of some other ride manufacterer. What they do, they do good, but that shouldnt stop a coaster company from going out there and creating something mindblowing like Arrow did. Medusa, Hulk, Kraken, Riddlers Revenge, all of their unique qualities to each of them, but when you look at the ride, they are very similar. No drops throughout the rides, little airtime. Different elements, but the length and "feel" of the rides are noticibly similar. This whole comment is meaningless for xDisney because he is a stubborn bitch and argues with anything I say, but for anyone else reading it feel free to show ur thoughts...
B&M Rider on 4/26/2002 11:11:15 PM said:
i dont find them stale, its just some B&Ms arent as good as others. B&M has done groundbreaking stuff. they made the first inverted coaster and dive machine. i can see ur opinion as to how they havent done nething new recently, but take a look at superman:ultimate flight. sure, vekoma was really the first company to do flying coasters, but basically they sucked at doing them. B&M made 2 flyers, which are so much better than vekomas. i would like to see B&M do something really ground-breaking within the next few years, something that would rock the industry. maybe theyll show what their true capabilities if they do put in the rumored launch coaster for universal. only time will tell.
BlueDvlLAF on 4/28/2002 2:30:08 AM said:
I love B&M, but do agree that they make much better inverteds than standups. Now, Ive only ridden Mantis at CP and have not yet ridden Riddlers Rg, but I am not surprised at all that on the latest Amusement Today Golden Ticket awards B&M inverteds that there were FOUR of them in the top 12 - rated #5, #8, #10, #12(Montu, Raptor, Alpengeist, Dueling Dragons) and not a single standup in the top 25.
B&M Rider on 4/28/2002 7:55:16 PM said:
totally agree, inverts r godly. no matter how bad the ride is (if bad is even possible to use when rating a B&M) i will still love it.
Sephiroth7 on 5/3/2002 4:56:55 PM said:
Youre not really getting what I am saying. What you are saying is true- They make great rides. However, it seems once I ride one of their sitdown loopers, Ive ridden them all. That is not to say that they dont have different genres of coasters (flying, inverts, floorless, etc..), but "a lot" of their coasters in the same genre are very similar. Thats whats really under discussion here, not that they havent made some kick ass rides...
B&M Rider on 5/3/2002 7:15:40 PM said:
yea, but still, inverts r godly
xDisney on 5/4/2002 9:29:42 AM said:
I disagree with Seph on this one. Every coaster I have been on has a different feel. Some coasters may look alike and have some of the same elements but thats where it stops. Look at Dueling Dragons, The Hulk and Top Gun. A lot of the same elements, but totally different rides.
B&M Rider on 5/4/2002 11:04:35 AM said:
i have to agree with disney, hes right. i remember going on kraken at seaworld, and then medusa at sfgadv, and even though they have pretty much the same elements, it felt like they were completely different rides
Sephiroth7 on 5/5/2002 11:01:32 AM said:
I totally disagree. Tho they are different rides, they all have the same feel. I dont know exactly what it is, but maybe the actual ride times are similar or the pacing is too similar on their rides. So what youre saying about DD and the Hulk is true...they arent alike at all. But that is not what I am saying..."However, it seems once I ride one of their sitdown loopers, Ive ridden them all."...is what I am saying. And you are right, inverts ARE godly...I cant believe I am having this conversation. I am a HUGE fan of B+M, but I still have my complaints. Obviously I loved Kraken, Hulk, DD Disney...I have backed those rides up with no remorse in the last year. I love the company, but they are not perfect! hehe...
B&M Rider on 5/5/2002 11:49:58 AM said:
lol i know, were coaster enthusiasts spoiled by the impeccable smoothness of B&M, and im so spoiled that i refuse to ride an arrow anymore, unless its a 4d
Sephiroth7 on 5/5/2002 5:59:18 PM said:
haha...4ds are really amazing. I would love to see B+M make one in the short future. The best example of my opinion is California Screamin. When has B+M made a looper that didnt do anything "but" loop over and over. After riding all the coasters in MM and CAdvneture, one of my least favorites was a B+M and supposdely a good B+M. This is not to say that every B+M should be amazing, but its just that it was my first B+M I have ridden since when Kraken came out (first time riding, not new in age). And instead of coming off RR happy, I came off saying the name of one of MMs other coasters - "Deja Vu"...
B&M Rider on 5/6/2002 6:36:48 PM said:
lol, i heard that deja vu is smoother than most other vekomas, how smooth r theY? i mean, theyve gotta be smoother than the older ones cuz vekomas dont age well, but do u think they redesigned their whole track to make their new coasters smoother?
Sephiroth7 on 5/7/2002 2:13:19 PM said:
Well...I never went on older Vekomas, but Deja Vue is absolutely incredible. Its very smooth, intense, thrilling, fast, everything a good coaster should be. Im not too sure what what ride you are talking about being "redesigned"...clarify that for me...
daptwa on 5/7/2002 3:11:09 PM said:
A very good and very unrated coaster that I think everyone would like is Georgia Scorcher. Its a B&M that has a unique layout and its a fun standup coaster. I think coaster is very similar to BDK. A smaller B&M that provides just as much thrills as the bigger coasters.
B&M Rider on 5/7/2002 10:07:23 PM said:
it looks like fun, i took a POV video of it and it looks like it packs a punch
daptwa on 5/8/2002 4:45:21 PM said:
It does. I think you would like that coaster better than Riddlers Revenge.
Sephiroth7 on 5/8/2002 5:45:54 PM said:
Yea...just videos cant prepare you for it. Even when I was on the ride, I wasnt "over" excited, but boy was I surprised...
ski on 10/15/2003 5:38:37 PM said:
WOW!!!
I have never been so happy not to be you. You put every one down if they dont agree
with you. What kind of person are you. I never want to meet someone like you. You
make me just want to get and.......DIE.
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