primogen18
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 7/5/2006 10:32:48 AM
lolol, that is pretty funny.
I've only seen a few instances of line cutting, and usually get pissed but just let them know they're being pretty stupid and ignorant (which does nothing because they're always little punks)A couple times when alot of people noticed got mad they forced them out which was good.
Recently at BGA while in line for Sheikra, it was about a 30 min wait or so, a group of about 6 kids "excused me" passed my dad and I, the last 3 never made it because we blocked their way. As the ride started moving we just "excused" ourself back in front of them leaving them saying how disrespectful people can be and how "oh its just what 2 mins more thats supid yo!" so yeah, why did you cut in the first place? lol. I hate that kind of crap. It was hot out and I was on somewhat of a short fuse that day as well, I'm glad I didn't go overboard.
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adriahna
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7/5/2006 11:42:50 AM
Oh, hum - it just dawned on me - WE WANT A TR WITH PICS!!! If you have any of larry getting popped in the face by that trash, please include those, too...
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larrygator
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7/5/2006 11:50:20 AM
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Oh, hum - it just dawned on me - WE WANT A TR WITH PICS!!! If you have any of larry getting popped in the face by that trash, please include those, too... |
sorry Joe didn't get any pictures of the actual violence, just pictures from the conversation portion of the confrontation.
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Hercules
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7/5/2006 12:33:33 PM
I have a few pics of just a mass of people, which I think correctly illustrates the situation.
To tell you the truth about the whole stiuation, it didn't even ruin my day at the park (of course, I wasn't the one getting nailed in the face). It was just another experience that I had never had at a park before, and now I have one hell of a story.
It really does piss me off though. I can't understand how a park that is trying to reach out to families can have such bad security. Throughout the fight, I saw 4 families leave the line and others just looking scared, with parents hoping that their children don't ask questions.
Here is a thought Six Flags, if you are going to double your security force, get them on the same page and actually have them to their job instead of just standing around and talking to eachother on their walkie talkies.
traver = classic
By the way Larry and Nathan, I had your back up until that huge dude came along. Believe me I was getting pretty fired up and was ready to thrown down at any given second.
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Cyclonic
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7/5/2006 1:51:20 PM
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All of this is completely insane. I can't even imagine being able to compose myself if anyone ever shoved me, nonetheless PUNCHED ME IN THE FACE, because I didn't want to let them cut freely ahead of me in line. I have to say it, I just have to:
WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE???
Is this a local thing? A generational thing? What the hell? Even on the hottest, most crowded days at theme parks back in my youth, I never saw anything even remotely resembling this sort of situation.
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I'll tell you what I think it is, but not here, and you ain't gonna like it.
It went down pretty much how Larry put it, except the group of guys were the first ones to try to cut the line.
I think the biggest problem I have it the park had no security watching the line. Nothing. For five minutes this non-sense went on and not one park employee saw it. It is rediculous how we are told things are going to change, yet things like this are still happening.
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larrygator
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7/5/2006 2:02:40 PM
yep the huge dude was HUGE! You guys were all there for me until I was pushed through the crowd for what seemed like an eternity and then i looked up in the aftermath I was about 50 feet and a hundred people in front of you.
Hercules - you should have grabbed some of those families leaving the line, I could have used some witnesses.
I wouldn't say I got "nailed" in the face, she didn't hitthat hard and that aspect didn't ruin my day. The fact that I had to watch my back the rest of the day worried me and who's to say what happened in the SFoG parking lot could not have happened at SFGAdv after I left the park.
The park should not make Security pit people against each other as witnesses. Security needs to be more active. Even if there are people escorted out of the park, who is to say those people would not have been waiting for me in the parking lot. If someone was arrested and taken away who is to say that a friend of the people wouldn't be waiting for me in the parking lot.
I completely missed the whole "Don't Worry, Be Happy" song playing in the background. 
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hrrytraver
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7/5/2006 2:23:14 PM
^larry, also i forget to congradulate you on being both a "n*g*er" AND "white trash".
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adriahna
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7/5/2006 2:34:13 PM
That's an accomplishment, to say the least. :king:
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erinys
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7/5/2006 8:10:15 PM
One of the things that really makes me crazy is that apparently that hussy admitted to security that she punched LG (5 times, and she'd do it again). After an admission of guilt, how can they just let her go for lack of witnesses?
This is just crazy-making. It gives me urges to cut in line until challenged and flush diapers. They must be punished. In my vindictive little world, the NY & Philly papers might need letters to the editor. But I'm a bitter b!tch still ticked about an unrelated negative experience there a few weeks back. It sounds like next year's season pass will be Hershey.
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Hercules
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7/5/2006 9:30:04 PM
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One of the things that really makes me crazy is that apparently that hussy admitted to security that she punched LG (5 times, and she'd do it again). After an admission of guilt, how can they just let her go for lack of witnesses? |
Actually, I pointed that out while at the security office, but the security guy claimed that he didn't hear it, even though she clearly shouted it about 20 feet across the gates at Larry.
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erinys
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7/5/2006 9:39:15 PM
It sounds like the security folk were just total wimps (this is not my first choice of word, but you get the idea). Was that your impression? The one time I asked a SFGAdv security person anything, he seemed stupid & lazy, but he appeared near retirement age and just marking time.
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Hercules
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7/5/2006 9:44:38 PM
Well, a few were wimps and a few were just plain old. The one guy was using a garbage picker as a cane. Another guy looked like he wasn't bothered by the situation and looked like he could have been in the group of hoodlums himself. A few others were just stunod.
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yfz450
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 7/6/2006 2:11:05 AM
I usually wont do anything to line cutters. oh well, I guess I need to wait a little longer and I dont want to make a scene.
edit::: I read through the last 2 pages now. wow that's crazy what happened to you guys. I would have just let them go by. Sometimes it's just harsh not to let people go by. Why wouldn't you let people by who are going to there friend / family though. A lot of people love to go to a park with family and friends. When someone goes out and buys dippin dots' for instance and comes in about 1 spot behind a friend why not let him cut and get in line with his friend? (not at anyone in particular just read through all 3 pages and I noticed a lot of people get mad when you do that)
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erinys
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7/6/2006 6:22:09 AM
It's a line. If you leave the line you are out of the line and start at the back. None of the guys mention (that I recall) people leaving the line and attempting to come back - friends are not place holders to send ahead to reserve a place in line while everyone else goes and does something that is more enjoyable. The appropriate thing to do would be for the friends to stay together, the friend ahead to drop back or wait at the station for their friends to catch up.
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RCGenius
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7/6/2006 6:52:32 AM
Besides yfz450, how would feel if say a gang of friends left the line to get some lunch, but then while you're already in the station or a few feet from it, they try to cut back in front of you? You're going to tell me that you wouldn't be ticked at all from this? After doing all of that waiting & people still try to cut in front of you to get to the ride first. That's just not right & they know that if they get caught, they'll neither be taken back to the ride, have to leave the ride, or leave the park without a refund. Unfortunately, most security guards are stupid & old & they don't care so much about what's going on with the lines. Trust me. I should know that because I've been working at Hersheypark for 2 years & I've seen it all the time. There's no rush for line cutters to get to the ride quickly. If we're able to show some patience for waiting in long lines, they should to. It's not like they're some special VIP or so'em. That'd be a different story.
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sfo1
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7/6/2006 11:08:27 AM
You guys should've had chainsaws. 
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Hercules
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7/6/2006 12:17:42 PM
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It's a line. If you leave the line you are out of the line and start at the back. None of the guys mention (that I recall) people leaving the line and attempting to come back - friends are not place holders to send ahead to reserve a place in line while everyone else goes and does something that is more enjoyable. The appropriate thing to do would be for the friends to stay together, the friend ahead to drop back or wait at the station for their friends to catch up. |
The really crazy thing is that the security actually said that it is ok for people to hold a place in line for someone. Apparently it is an unwritten park policy. A lot of good that does. All it says on the tickets is any form of line cutting will result in being kicked out of the park. I would think that holding a spot in line is a form of cutting, but they don't seem to think so.
yfz - The first thing that happened was a gang of like 10 dudes that just blatantly lifted up the chain and started to walk in front of about 100 people, but were met by a wall known as Cyclonic and larrygator who informed them in a polite way that it was wrong. This gang was not meeting up with anyone else, but trying to use their tough image to just get their way up to the station. Then came two girls that had no affiliation with eachother or the big group who was already threatening to kill us. The two girls just decided to get into the fight. Sure, sometimes it is ok to just let someone pass a little bit, but they were just blantantly cutting.
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adriahna
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 7/6/2006 12:17:59 PM
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yfz450 said:
I usually wont do anything to line cutters. oh well, I guess I need to wait a little longer and I dont want to make a scene.
edit::: I read through the last 2 pages now. wow that's crazy what happened to you guys. I would have just let them go by. Sometimes it's just harsh not to let people go by. Why wouldn't you let people by who are going to there friend / family though. A lot of people love to go to a park with family and friends. When someone goes out and buys dippin dots' for instance and comes in about 1 spot behind a friend why not let him cut and get in line with his friend? (not at anyone in particular just read through all 3 pages and I noticed a lot of people get mad when you do that) |
Because I have very little patience for people who feel that, for whatever nonexistent reason, they have a right to jump ahead of people who have already spent their own time, waiting for their turn to ride. Sure, people want to stick with their friends and family when they go to a park - but that's their responsibility, not mine. Oh, so they want Dippin Dots? Too bad - they should have bought the darned things before they got in line. Really, it isn't rocket science - it's just simple consideration for others who are already dealing with being in line, to begin with.
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Hercules
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7/6/2006 12:42:30 PM
Besides, there are not vending machines and concession stands on the lines now because lines can get so bad.
Very good business I might add.
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adriahna
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7/6/2006 2:38:35 PM
I think you meant, "are there not", and I agree.
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larrygator
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7/6/2006 4:01:23 PM
look, BFL, Herc and I waited for Cyclonic and hrrytraver to get out of the restroom. If we had just done like everybody else and entered the line and had them join us would that have made the situation right. NO we followed park policy and the others didn't.
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