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Cairn
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1/31/2005 9:52:10 PM
Sorry if this topic has been discussed in the past...

If you could rebuild any defunct coaster exactly as it were built, which coaster would it be,and what park would you put it in?

Since it was taken out of service long before I was born, and apparently it was a monster of a ride....I would love to see a copy of the Crystal Beach Cyclone built in Lake Compounce along side the lake itself...possibly by the Thunder Rapids ride.

I would like to see the SBNO Lincoln Park Comet relocated to Quassy, mainly because I never had a chance to ride it, as well as that park could benefit from a wooden coaster.

SFNE NEEDS to build a copy of the Mountain Flyer!!!!

Anything you can add?
Hercules
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1/31/2005 9:55:04 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm...... let me see. Oh man. Can't really think of anything off the top of my head. This is a really hard question. Let me think about this one a little... oh give me a break... HERCULES. The park... knock down a couple of houses and trees and put it in my back yard after building a man made lake. Or you could just knock down Hydra and put it in Dorney again, whichever is more logical.
adriahna
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Skooter Junkie
2/1/2005 6:33:28 PM
For me, the first question is a No Brainer - Crystal Beach Cyclone, baby. Break my neck, splinter my collarbones, wrench my back out to the next zip code - bring it on.

As far as where to put it, I'd be stuck between Cedar Point, alongside Lake Erie - it would be just beautiful there - imagine it at night; and Knoebels - tucked away in the woods, its swooping lines edging above the trees like serpents. What a beauty of a coaster... drooling, here...
Scott
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2/1/2005 6:51:40 PM
I'll go with the Mighty thunderbolt at Coney Island. I rode it when I was 9... wow I miss that thing

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Message updated 2/1/2005 6:52:28 PM by Scott
adriahna
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Skooter Junkie
2/1/2005 7:49:28 PM
You rode the Thunderbolt? That same one that was along the boardwalk, next to the old Steeplechase site??? TELL ME MORE...
Scott
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2/1/2005 10:12:05 PM
Hell no. I'm only 26, remember? I actually was at Coney Island while it was in disrepair. I waited another 15 years to head back to Coney, and it's been a yearly tradition since. Sadly, the thunderbolt's gone now Look at it here.
coasterSS
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2/1/2005 10:14:43 PM
Red Devil at Ghost Town, move it to my backyard!
Swimace
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2/1/2005 10:56:14 PM
it's not doing any good where it is now
BobFunland
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2/1/2005 11:08:02 PM
Quote:
adriahna said:
For me, the first question is a No Brainer - Crystal Beach Cyclone, baby. Break my neck, splinter my collarbones, wrench my back out to the next zip code - bring it on.


Ahhh, that is easily my choice. Traver was really at the peak of his psychopathic designs with that wicked twister. After watching the POV from it, I just was amazed. The thing had bunny hills taken at probably 45 mph that were only probably 10 feet high- some powerful ejector air in that baby. Oh, and a real trick track, one that really rattles the bones and gets the wheel assembleage nervous.

Great pick, I'll meet you at the infirmary after we get off


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Message updated 2/1/2005 11:09:26 PM by BobFunland
adriahna
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Skooter Junkie
2/1/2005 11:17:14 PM
Quote:
Scott Hot said:
Hell no. I'm only 26, remember? I actually was at Coney Island while it was in disrepair. I waited another 15 years to head back to Coney, and it's been a yearly tradition since. Sadly, the thunderbolt's gone now Look at it here.


I was wondering - you seemed young. I took a lot of pics of that gem, and was heartbroken to see it two days after demolition (took photos of that, too). I've heard it was great - I remember looking at its double-drop hill from the street, and just sighing audibly. I actually - sniff - cried when I saw it reduced to a pile of timber - I hadn't heard the news, and it was a total shock.

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adriahna
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Skooter Junkie
2/1/2005 11:18:54 PM
Quote:
BobFunland said:
Ahhh, that is easily my choice. Traver was really at the peak of his psychopathic designs with that wicked twister. After watching the POV from it, I just was amazed. The thing had bunny hills taken at probably 45 mph that were only probably 10 feet high- some powerful ejector air in that baby. Oh, and a real trick track, one that really rattles the bones and gets the wheel assembleage nervous.

Great pick, I'll meet you at the infirmary after we get off


What POV are you talking about? On-ride footage? A computer-recreation? I'm very curious. And yessir - if that happy day of rebuilding should ever be, we'll both give each other a high-five - too bad it won't be easy, considering we'll be in traction...
BobFunland
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2/1/2005 11:20:48 PM
Yep:
http://badnitrus.coasterbuzz.com/Coasters/CrystalBeachCyclone/CrystalBeachCyclone.htm

Scroll to the bottom, it's a big file, but your a big girl now with your fancy-schmancy wireless

Just kidding, but yes, its a computer re-generated POV.
Hercules
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2/2/2005 1:31:26 AM
Dude, that is one sick coaster. If I weren't so utterly in love with Hercules, that would be the ride that I would pick right there. That is something more than I could have ever imagined. I was thinking of a word that could possibly describe what I would have felt if I had ever been able to ride it and the only thing that I could come up with was... orgasmic? Well, I don't know about that but it would have definately been pretty freakin' sweet. Talk about a twisted heap of wood. There was like less than an ounce of straight track on that thing and those little bunny hills looked absolutely killer. If it was completely accurate, excellent coaster. I would love to see that thing at Knoebels - nicely tucked away in the back woods, tree branches hanging over your head and brushing past your face. Unreal. Or, even at a place like, ohhh say, Kennywood? Great find there too Bob... that was awesome.
adriahna
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Skooter Junkie
2/2/2005 10:29:07 AM
THANK YOU, Bob - for putting that link up. You pretty much took care of a need within me that's been eating away at me for almost 20 years. Astounding. I have so many photos of that coaster above my work desk, and I knew it must have been really, really something - but this gives me an entirely new respect. Of course, it must have really been something with all of the victims - er - passengers screaming bloody murder, and (based on rider accounts) the smell of vomit emanating from the station - now, that's one vicious, hellraising monster of a coaster.

And those bunny hills you're talking about - those would probably be totally illegal nowadays, I can't even conceive of what kind of airtime they produced, considering that was in the days of single lapbars and no seat dividers... I'm starting to go into my CBC trance...
coaster05
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2/2/2005 1:54:45 PM
I have this vision of heaven where you can move through time so all the thin gs you missed you get to go and do again. It's just one of those thoughts that make me happy.
Cairn
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2/2/2005 5:52:10 PM
Thank you for that link!!! All these new hypercoasters can't stand a candle to this monster! That ground level figure-8 is NUTS!!! I would KILL to ride the C.B. Cyclone...it would look great at the far end of Lake Compounce, over near the raft ride and sky ride. A neat touch that could be added would be having the riders pick up their on-board ride photos at a booth shaped like a nurses' stand, by attendants dressed like nurses!!!
coasterSS
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2/2/2005 6:42:13 PM
Quote:
coaster05 said:
I have this vision of heaven where you can move through time so all the thin gs you missed you get to go and do again. It's just one of those thoughts that make me happy.


You should make that your sig!

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BobFunland
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2/2/2005 6:46:43 PM
That is officially what GCI needs to do next. Somewhere -- I'll fly or drive anywhere for a replica of that sucker
tacoking
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2/2/2005 7:56:40 PM
Moonsault Scramble.
benleibo
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2/2/2005 8:13:57 PM
Drachen Fire
Crystal Beach Cyclone
Moonsault Scramble
BobFunland
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2/2/2005 8:18:22 PM
Quote:
tacoking said:
Moonsault Scramble.


Why? It doesn't look brilliant, just intense.
tacoking
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2/2/2005 9:37:59 PM
The more intense, the better.
Hercules
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2/2/2005 10:33:52 PM
Drachen Fire. Now that is a coaster that I would have liked to have ridden. I was thinking a long the lines of a wood in my thinking, but if there were ever a steel to choose, that one would be it for sure.
ibluv
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2/3/2005 1:07:58 PM
Quote:
Cairn said:
I would KILL to ride the C.B. Cyclone...it would look great at the far end of Lake Compounce, over near the raft ride and sky ride. A neat touch that could be added would be having the riders pick up their on-board ride photos at a booth shaped like a nurses' stand, by attendants dressed like nurses!!!


You read my mind Cairn!!! (It would help if I had my own computer so I could open the virtual ride ) It was so intense I don´t know if today´s public could handle it (WE all could, right?).

Another coaster I´d like to see brought back isn´t so well known: the Savin Rock Thunderbolt. It was destroyed almost 70 years ago by a bad hurricane but from the postcards I´ve seen it looked like one hell of a ride: VERY tall for its time with a devilish twister. I would like to see it rebuilt somewhere along the CT waterfront (maybe Lighthouse Point). SR was a HUGE park but there is so little info available about it online (although there is a museum in West Haven).

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Cairn
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2/3/2005 7:07:48 PM
Quote:
ibluv said:
You read my mind Cairn!!! (It would help if I had my own computer so I could open the virtual ride ) It was so intense I don´t know if today´s public could handle it (WE all could, right?).

Another coaster I´d like to see brought back isn´t so well known: the Savin Rock Thunderbolt. It was destroyed almost 70 years ago by a bad hurricane but from the postcards I´ve seen it looked like one hell of a ride: VERY tall for its time with a devilish twister. I would like to see it rebuilt somewhere along the CT waterfront (maybe Lighthouse Point). SR was a HUGE park but there is so little info available about it online (although there is a museum in West Haven).


The site link is amazing...if you can get a chance to open it, do so....your imagination will run wild as to what a fabulous ride it must have been! The Cyclone would be amazing at Lake Compounce....Take a ride on Boulder Dash, then run over to this monster....one HELL of a one-two punch!

I have seen photos of those early CT coasters before the '38 hurricane destroyed them. One park had twin coasters side by side as I recall. Newport R.I. had a coaster called the Ol' Mill as well. It too was lost in the hurricane. A beachfront Connecticut park with a wooden "Golden Age" coaster would be fantastic. Ocean Beach Park at one time had some rides...I recall riding a Mad Mouse coaster in the early 80's. I don't think the rides are there anymore, but a big woodie built there by the boardwalk would be a nice way to view Long Island Sound!

In time maybe the Casinos will build their own coasters?

Timberman
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2/4/2005 12:50:10 AM
Bob, that link was one of the best things I've seen.

The Crystal Beach Cyclone and the Coney Island Thunderbolt are both excellent choices. Two I'm surprised no one has mentioned are the Bobs (Tornado) at Coney Island and the Aeroplane Coaster at Rye Playland. I would put them both right back where they were. Oh, and I'd also rebuild Riverview Park in Chicago just as it was.

Incidentally, I was living in Brooklyn when they tore down the Thunderbolt and a local radio station erroneously reported that bulldozers were demolishing the Cyclone. I think I actually went into the early stages of a heart attack before I was able to verify what was happening. Still, that was a sad, sad day.
Message updated 2/4/2005 12:52:26 AM by Timberman
adriahna
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Skooter Junkie
2/4/2005 10:18:37 AM
Yes - a real shame, and one of those moments I was ready to hunt down Rudy Giuliani... I'll never forget the day I found out the Thunderbolt was gone. My brother and I went to Coney two days after it had happened - we had headed out to go to the Aquarium, but once I got off the subway at Stillwell, I just knew something was very wrong - I just sensed it. As we headed down Surf, I realized what had happened - I actually cried that day, as I had always considered that coaster an old friend, and hoped against hope that someone would eventually save it. A horrible day.

Anyhow, you're absolutely right about both the Aeroplane and the Bobs. I was just on the Coney Island message board last night, talking about the Bobs - from photos I've seen (particularly one that was shot on-ride), that looked like a real son of a b***h. Fred Church at his finest. And the Aeroplane - have you seen any on-ride photos of that one? I've seen a good number of off-ride shots in Playland's museum, but I'm still searching for that elusive on-ride. Wow - what a coaster. It must have been truly terrifying, what with that death spiral... boy, I was born way too late...
BobFunland
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2/4/2005 12:45:14 PM
The Aeroplane may be the inspiration for the Beech Bend GCI next year, or so they say. That would be awesome, and I would love to see them recreate some of the classical woodies come to life again.
mrceagle
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2/4/2005 4:56:11 PM
Drachn Fire but I woudl have B&M build it insted of Arrow.

Thunderbolt from Coley Island
the Lincolmn Park Comet
the old orchard Beach Jack rabit
Animan1
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2/5/2005 8:43:57 AM
I've wanted to ride the original Steel Phantom. It's not really gone, but, well, you know what I mean...

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