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0 Rating Posted by: Cyclonic on 11/16/2004 7:36:00 PM

Mediocre flying skooter, at best. While I like the theme to them, it is different, and I love the bullet shaped tubs and great, big wings, snapping these is an impossiblity. There is a cute, little chain attached to the handle of the wings to prevent this, thus providing a slow ride with little movement.

You can still turn them 90 degrees wich is more then I can say for Amarican Flyers at lake compounce. Its also run allot faster. the only better skooters in the area were the ones at whalom and there gone. Sold to Story land that woudl nuterthem like the rest. Welcom to the gray future.

Gray future, indeed... why are parks even doing this??? Rowdy Roosters? More like Incapable Capons...

Many parks need to lock them down. it costs too much to fix them when people brack then being too harch. The movment on The rostes are better then most. The safty and insurance thing is the rest of the reasons.

"it costs too much to fix them when people brack then being too harch." What?

The movement on this ride sucks, pure and simple. If you think it is better then most, then you have not been on that many. It is second to only the LC flyers in terms of just how bad the movement is.

Maybe you should check out the ungodly slow FLyers are Lake Compounce. Ive also ridden this at a few parks that have since shut down. they ran theres terably slow and the plain rust of the fin mad it inposible to turn. Yes compared to the glory days these rides arnt sh!t. but unfortunatly parks cant aford the maintanince of a brocken fin or the ware and tare on a ride no longer made. well thats not try Larson is not making them.

"well thats not try Larson is not making them" Could you say that again, I have no idea what you are saying there.

Larson does make flyers, eight tub models, and has been for several years. I have ridden the Larson flyers at both Hersheypark and Idiana Beach. Both are snappable, though the ones at IB dont give a long enough ride cycle to really get them going.

You will also note that I said the Roosters were second to only the flyers at LC, which are horrible, and I reviewed those some time ago, and they got a worse grade. If you want to know what flyers should be like, you have to go to Knoebels or Fun Spot, those are two examples of what flyers should be. Are they high maintaince? No more then any other ride according to the folks at Knoebels. Fin replacement is nore tediuace then expensive, but if a rider knows what to do, they should not be banging the fins around. Cables are no problem, steel cables can take a beating, they are rated at alot higher then what they have to endore.

Well said, Cyclonic (fellow Flyer Expert). I am curious to ride the machines at HP and IB - knowing that newer Larson Flyers are snappable gives me some hope. Ill always be a die-hard Bisch-Rocco fanatic, but at least theres a future for this classic ride.

Knoebels, at least from what their administrative office told me, does dislike having to constantly re-cover and re-seal their Flyer sails - thus the reason for that little sign at the front of the Flyer line. But not enough for them to scrap the ride altogether (god forbid). Im acutally thankful that the sign is there - it made me rethink my Flyer technique, and now that Im gentler on the sails, the results are CRAZY. Light years beyond what I was capable of earlier.

And as far as the cables go, not to worry - indeed, they can handle it. If the classic, vintage examples of this ride (Knoebels and Paramounts Carowinds being two excellent specimens) have been around this long without incident, if treated with great maintenance as theyve had, theyll be just fine.

What you don;t sem to get is many people arnt experts when it coms to flyers. Ive sen peaple try to snap them while it is slowign down and snap the tub right against the ground. Ive ridden good flyers. the one that were at Whalom Park were untuched. Larson is a good company and I hope to ride one of there flyers one day. Im not tryign to say your wrong by the rating. but allot of parks are pulign far more then canbie when it comes to restricting the flyers.

Gotcha - thanks for clearing that up.

Personaly i woudl like to see more of these around. Theyre great family rides and thrilling enough for a teenager of adult. I too get agravated by them binding them from what they can do. i remember when Canobies coudl be snapped more then 90 degrees. not to mention up and down. I too wish for the golden years of the flyers.

Do you know what snapping them means?

Yes its a maner of caching the wind in orgder to quickly turn the carage.

No, not really. It is OK. Snapping the flyer is when you actually slow down the tub in relation to the rest of the ride, causing the cable to slack up. When the ride finally pulls the tub forward, it violently pulls the cable taught, causing an often loud snapping sound, and forcing the tub high much faster then normal. It is something that take practice to learn, and that only certain machines are capable of even doing be cause most have been restricted in some way of doing it.

I also found these to be unsnapable but even with the chains attached I got some really good movement that allowed me to go perpendicular with the ride for almost a whol lap. Cyclonic you will be upset to know that I visited Fun Spot this year and half their flats were not working including the flyers whose cars were not even attached.

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