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RCGenius
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10/29/2005 8:07:25 PM
What amusement park do ya'll think's the most complete park or almost complete park around & why? Also try to add in what the park's missing for it to be complete. The park to me which's the closest to completion's Cedar Point b/c any park that has over 60 rides & attractions are pretty much complete. Don't forget about their amazing 16 coasters too. The only rides I think that they're missing are a B&M floorless & flying coaster, a decent GCI woody, & some family rides.
Canobie Coaster
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10/29/2005 8:11:46 PM
To me it would have to be Knoebels. They have great deals, it is well worth the price, and they have many, different rides. They have two great wooden coasters, a wonderful dark ride, many great flats, spectacular water rides, and great food. All Knoebels is missing to me is a great steel coaster.
BobFunland
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10/30/2005 1:26:33 AM
nah, not Knoebels. As much as I like to think that the park is good at what it does and such and I'm against them getting some of these big B&M creations that some people think would fit, they just aren't the most complete park IMO.

I say Great Adventure. First, they have a very good roller coaster lineup and a good amount of flats, even if some were down. They also had some pretty good food while we were there and we didn't experience any of the "horror stories" that I had read about for years (bad staffing, out of control security). The park was clean and the themeing was nice. Add a water park and animal area on top of that along with a nice variety of rides inside the park and I think we have a winner
larrygator
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10/30/2005 1:58:08 AM
I'll go with Hersheypark. It has a friendly staff, good steel and good wood, traditional and new flats tend to be run well, and the food is varied and tasty, including the best kettle corn. They even have a little zoo. For value they offer one of the best offers with the preview pass on the night before you attend.
Cyclonic
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10/30/2005 1:35:46 PM
I have been giving this one some thought.

I agree that Knoebels is not the most complete it could be, it is a great park, my favorite, but they do lack when it comes having a good steel coaster. Does this mean I think they should add something like a Beemer or Intamin, no, I don't think they would fit in the park at all, but a mouse or spinning coaster would work very well, or even better, a classic Schwarzkopf looping coaster.

I deffinately don't think Cedar Point fits the bill. They are totally lacking in the wooden coaster department, with Blue Streak being OK, but nothing impressive, and Mean Streak should just be torn down. They need a modern twister to really do the trick. I also think their flats are pretty lack luster, and they have no real dark ride.

SFGAdv comes close, with an excellent line-up of coasters with what looks like a fantastic woody on the way to round it out and some decent flats and even a dark ride, but they suffer in the maintaince area, and while they have been much, much better this season, there are just too many rides that are down that would be running at other parks.

I think Larry hit it on the head with Hershey, just a fantastic, well run park, with great rides that run the gamit, wonderful staff and decent food.

Another park I think is complete for what it is is Dutch Wonderland (TR coming soon). It is mostly a kids park, and that is what they cater to, but they do it very, very well. They have an excellent small wooden coaster, as well as a small steel coaster to compliment it. They have a nice mix of classic rides along with some newer ones. They have a great staff that actually seem to care about their jobs and have fun while their at it. It is a real gem of a park that is often overlooked with so many larger parks around it.

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coaster05
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10/30/2005 1:50:28 PM
I also agree with Larry. Hershey, to me, nails almost everything and with the additionof a dark ride will be even more complete. The coasters are all pretty solid and have a nice variety. they have good flats and water rides. Nice kid are, affordable ticket especially with the preview plan. Really good food, free zoo, free chocolate world ride, affordable souvenirs. For me it just keeps going. They could use a better train, but the monorail makes up for it.

BGW is the only place that I would also mention, but it just does not have the rides.
BobFunland
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10/30/2005 6:00:48 PM
Damn I overlooked Hershey. I agree that its moreso complete than Great Adventure, its probably my favorite amusement park

I'm not sold on their wondeful staff though, we ran into some real winners in a couple of the shops, but the ops and food service folks were all great! Still, I don't think there is such a thing as a fully complete park, but Hershey is damn close.
coaster05
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10/30/2005 6:30:01 PM
No matter where you are at there is always those couple staff that suck, but on my 4 vists there I have seen almost nothing bad.
mrceagle
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10/30/2005 10:43:05 PM
I don't think park ca ever bo Complete.

But,

SFNE, There so close but jsut can't get there act together. Clean things up, paint, theming, and some family rides. they coudl be there. (I know your all shocked)

Canobie lake, The park have a grea solection of Kiddie, family, and a few thrill rides. there look and clenlynes is there. All they need is a cople more thrill rides and a major coaster.

SFOG, also so close lakking in the Flat ride area. there last adition is a great start. add a few more flats 2-4 thrill and 6-10 family and you got your self a park that can't be beat.
Hercules
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10/31/2005 1:17:33 PM
Quote:
Cyclonic said:
I have been giving this one some thought.

I agree that Knoebels is not the most complete it could be, it is a great park, my favorite, but they do lack when it comes having a good steel coaster. Does this mean I think they should add something like a Beemer or Intamin, no, I don't think they would fit in the park at all, but a mouse or spinning coaster would work very well, or even better, a classic Schwarzkopf looping coaster.

I deffinately don't think Cedar Point fits the bill. They are totally lacking in the wooden coaster department, with Blue Streak being OK, but nothing impressive, and Mean Streak should just be torn down. They need a modern twister to really do the trick. I also think their flats are pretty lack luster, and they have no real dark ride.


I completely agree with both of those.

The two parks that come the closest are definately Great Adventure and Hersheypark, but I think that Hershey gets the nod. Like Cedar Point, Great Adventure does not have (I think they both don't) classic flats like a scambler and a tilt-a-whirl which are a couple of rides that I think are necessary for a park to have. Once El Toro is up and running, the coasters will be there and their coaster selection will be even more complete. Hershey gets it eventhough I don't like how they run most of their flats, but it is ok because their coasters are very good and they have a wide variety of flats, new and old.

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coasterwom
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4/29/2006 3:00:45 AM
I think CP is the most complete park. They are only missing a flying coaster, and a 4th dimension coaster to be complete. Let's see what the future holds for Cedar Point?
coaster05
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4/29/2006 9:01:23 AM
Why do they have a floorles I don't know about. How about a flume or about ten other flats? Have you been on their new dark ride? They have a great coaster collection, but this thread is complete PARK, so I am thinking they are still far from complete.
no cars go
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4/29/2006 10:29:22 AM
In my opinion I think Kennywood is the most complete park. They have a great lineup of coasters and they also have really good flats and kiddie rides. The staff is real nice and the park is always pretty clean. All they need is to do something about the King Kahuna (it's broken down every time I go) and an inversion.
mrceagle
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4/29/2006 2:56:38 PM
Quote:
mrceagle said:
I don't think park ca ever bo Complete.

But,

SFNE, There so close but jsut can't get there act together. Clean things up, paint, theming, and some family rides. they coudl be there. (I know your all shocked)

Canobie lake, The park have a grea solection of Kiddie, family, and a few thrill rides. there look and clenlynes is there. All they need is a cople more thrill rides and a major coaster.

SFOG, also so close lakking in the Flat ride area. there last adition is a great start. add a few more flats 2-4 thrill and 6-10 family and you got your self a park that can't be beat.


Wow I completely hate SFI don’t I?

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coaster05
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4/29/2006 7:24:51 PM
^yes. Your posts talk about all the stuff they have to do. The only positive comment was about SFOG which you said their last edition is a great start.
Animan1
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4/29/2006 7:47:29 PM
Quote:
coasterwom said:
I think CP is the most complete park. They are only missing a flying coaster, and a 4th dimension coaster to be complete. Let's see what the future holds for Cedar Point?


I can see that you really must not care about wooden coasters, loopers, or flat rides. Which is certainly fine, your are obviously entitled to your opinion. But I definitely don't agree that CP is the most balanced park out there. Just my two cents.
Scott
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4/29/2006 9:17:02 PM
I actually think that SFEG is a well rounded park. A good wooden, a few loopers, and 12 or 13 family flats. Not bad.
Swimace
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4/29/2006 9:20:05 PM
As strange as it may sound, I'd say that SFFT is only a couple rides shy of being one of the most complete parks.
The Lado
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4/30/2006 8:23:06 PM
I guess it all depends on what the term "complete" means. I dont think Knoebels is complete, but I also think that doesn't mean its not as good as a complete park. I think a good complete park would have to have great rides, food, shops, games, along with those other little things that make a park. If your lacking one of them, it just aint right.

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mrceagle
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5/1/2006 10:28:01 AM
Quote:
coaster05 said:
^yes. Your posts talk about all the stuff they have to do. The only positive comment was about SFOG which you said their last edition is a great start.


Yes I did but I don’t say they sucked right now. My complaint about SFNE is wide spread in this area. Yet they have started fixing allot of what I mentioned.

What’s wrong with saying the last addition is a good start with SFOG. I have heard many people make comets towards SFOG’s Flat Collection.

To be honest as far as the Two SFI parks I mentioned especially with SFOG I didn’t think I needed to state the Obvious. SFNE has a great Coaster and Thrill ride selection. SFOG has a fantastic and varied coaster selection and a number of unique attractions like Monster plantation.
coaster05
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5/1/2006 11:02:41 AM
all that I was saying is you were acting like you love SFI when you only had one positive comment. I was just making an observation, nothing more.
mrceagle
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5/1/2006 6:59:34 PM
It’s not that I hate SFI. I hate if any park called them selves a theme park and had like no themeing. For example If Canobie started calling them selves a theme park I would be complaining. They aren’t. SFNE is slightly but lacking compared to parks like SFOG, Busch gardens, Disney, Universal, etc. I don’t lake allot of what they do. But the new management seems willing to fix much of that. Though I’m annoyed by the heavy increase in prices.

Though what I was commenting towards was the fact, that it seems many of you think I hate everything to do with SFI. Though there are many things I dislike there are good things. I don’t hate everything. But if there is something that I feel is a bit overboard like prices or too many characters in rides. I say something. If you think back you might remember me saying things about Disney, BGW, Funtown/Splashtown, etc.
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